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ABES integra importantes discussões do 51° Congresso Nacional de Saneamento da Assemae

22/09/2023 Redação ABES

O diretor nacional para a Região Centro-Oeste, o presidente da ABES-SP, Luiz Pladevall, e o membro da diretoria da seção, Josivan Cardoso, participaram de mesas do evento, realizado em Poços de Caldas, Minas Gerais.

Nesta quinta-feira, a Associação Brasileira de Engenharia Sanitária e Ambiental – Seção São Paulo integrou duas importantes discussões do 51° CNSA – Congresso Nacional de Saneamento, promovido pela Assemae (Associação Nacional dos Serviços Municipais de Saneamento), em Poços de Caldas/MG. O evento começou na segunda-feira, 18 de setembro, e segue até esta sexta-feira, 22.

O presidente da ABES Seção Paulo, Luiz Pladevall, participou da Mesa Redonda “Gerenciamento e redução de perdas de água e eficiência energética”. 

A mesa foi coordenada por Mariel Pozi Olmo, diretor do SAAE de São Carlos – SP e diretor de Capacitação de Recursos Humanos da Assemae. Os outros convidados para a mesa redonda foram: Lineu de Andrade Almeida, diretor Técnico – SAERP de Ribeirão Preto – SP, Kauê Pereira Guimarães, gerente de Aprovação de Projetos e Ficalização de Obras – Samae de São Leopoldo – RS, Clarissa de Campos de Sá, gerente do Centro de Inteligência em Operações – Companhia Águas de Joinville – SC, Paulo Fernando da Silveira, presidente do Comitê de Perdas – DMAE de Poços de Caldas – MG, Rafael Huberto Machado Zerunian, coordenador de Sistemas de Perdas do Semae de São José do Rio Preto, Ivan de Carlos, gerente de controle de perdas e sistemas da Sanasa Campinas – SP, e Vagner Garhardt Mancio, diretor de Normatização e Fiscalização – Agesan RS.

Pladevall ressalta a importância das agências reguladoras, não só em cobrar os municípios, mas dar caminhos para a melhoria da gestão dos sistemas com relação à eficiência e redução de perdas e atingir a meta da portaria 490.

“É um evento bem organiza e muito bem prestigiado. E o painel do qual participamos foi muito interessante. Tivemos, além da minha fala, mais sete palestrantes de serviços, seis de serviços municipais e um da Agência Reguladora do Rio Grande do Sul. Vejo que as agências reguladoras têm um papel importante para orientar os municípios na melhoria da gestão dos sistemas, no aumento da eficiência e na redução de perdas. Vimos lá alguns municípios que já estão em estágio bem avançado, como Campinas e São José do Rio Preto, e muitos que estão trabalhando fortemente para melhorar. O painel foi excelente, as falas foram muito proveitosas para o público”.

Em sua apresentação, Pladevall abordou as questões das perdas no mundo, no Brasil, nos municípios e nas regiões. “Temos muito o que fazer, muitos desafios pela frente para diminuirmos a média, que hoje é de 40%, para 25%, a meta da portaria 490 estabelecida para o final de 2033 e início de 2034″.

O membro da Diretoria da ABES-SP, Josivan Cardoso, participou do painel “Regionalização do saneamento básico – desafios”, com coordenação de Horácio da Silva Figueiredo, 1° Diretor de Assuntos Jurídicos da Assemae e assessor da Presidência da Companhia de Saneamento de Maricá – Sanemar – RJ. Os outros participantes foram: Manuelito Magalhães Júnior, vice-presidente da Assemae e presidente da Sanasa Campinas – SP, Sérgio Gonçalves,  secretário executivo da Aesbe, Esmeraldo Pereira Santos, diretor de Comunicação Social da Assemae e diretor do SAAE de Passos – MG, Kleynner Jardim Lopes, superintendente de Saneamento Básico – SUSAB/Secretaria de Estado de Meio Ambiente e Desenvolvimento Sustentável – Semad – Governo do Estado de Minas Gerais, e Caroline Alvarenga Pertussatti, coordenadora do Marco Legal do Saneamento da Secretaria Nacional de Saneamento Ambiental do Ministério das Cidades.

Josivan destaca a importância do painel: “Ainda há muito o que discutir sobre o processo de regionalização do saneamento. São grandes desafios de uma agenda bem detalhista, com grandes diferenças entre os municípios brasileiros”.

Ele frisa que, para a regionalização acontecer de fato, com a condição de dar efetividade ao arranjo, é necessário que os temas sejam pensados conjuntamente, por todos os atores envolvidos.

“Nós tocamos em três pontos, que entendemos ser relevantes: quando os municípios não aderem, o que ocasiona riscos de dificuldades por não obterem recursos financeiros junto ao Governo Federal, trazendo impactos bem significativos ao município; a questão da governança interfederativa, que é o arranjo posto para a governança do processo de regionalização, que é outro tema que ainda não tem todas as respostas de sua estruturação, ou seja, de onde vem o suporte para que isso possa funcionar, de como isso se desenha no funcionamento efetivo do dia a dia dessa regionalização; e claro, também tratamos de planos que a lei coloca para a regionalização: até que ponto esses planos regionais se sobrepõem aos planos municipais (esta sobreposição está prevista na lei).

E como fazer com que esses os planos municipais, como os próprios planos de saneamento municipal, os planos diretores municipais e PDIs (Planos de Desenvolvimento Integrados), sejam incorporados, não como uma sobreposição simples, mas como uma sobreposição de análise para fazer com que as metas sejam congruentes, que se complementem e consigam realmente atingir o efeito.

E claro, tudo isso, no entendimento de que as realidades são muito distintas nos municípios brasileiros. Portanto, entendemos também que a melhor forma é uma discussão com capacidade de realmente trazer todos os atores e que não é uma discussão simples, é complexa e importante, pede que haja realmente nesse momentos de discussão a busca conjunta a fim de  construir a melhor forma de avançar, a melhor forma de trazer com segurança a capacidade de proporcionar o que nós queremos, que é a universalização do saneamento. Eu espero que ajude o saneamento”, finaliza o diretor.

Na tarde da terça, 19, o diretor nacional para a Região Centro-Oeste, Marcos Montenegro, integrou uma mesa redonda que discutiu os desafios para implementação do sanemeanto rural.

Com coordenação de Francisco Danyel Nobre, presidente da Regional Nordeste IV da Assemae e diretor do SAAE de Morada Nova – CE, o debate contou ainda com participação de Marcondes Ribeiro Lima – Diretor-presidente do Instituto Sisar – CE; Marcos Vinícius Rocha Miranda – DMAE de Poços de Caldas – MG; Wilson Tadeu Lopes da Silva, prof pesquisador de desenvolvimento da Embrapa; e Flávio Marcos Passos Gomes Júnior, diretor do Departamento de Saneamento Rural e Pequenos Municípios – Secretaria Nacional de Saneamento Ambiental – Ministério das Cidades.

Abertura e estande da ABES

A ABES esteve presente na abertura do evento, na segunda-feira, 18 de setembro, representada pelo vice-presidente nacional da ABES, Mário Guerino.

A Associação também participa com estande na feira. A diretora executiva, Alessandra Peres, recebeu diversas autoridades, na noite de abertura, como Alexandre Anderáos, superintendente Adjunto de Regulação de Saneamento Básico, o presidente da Assemae, Rodopiano Marques Evangelista, o secretário executivo da associação, Francisco dos Santos Lopes, o prefeito de Poços de Caldas, Sergio Antônio Carvalho de Azevedo, e a primeira-dama, Gisele Azevedo, além de Aparecido Hojaij, ex-presidente da Assemae. Renata Oliveira, coordenadora do Prêmio Jovem da Água de Estocolmo – Etapa Brasil, Marcos Montenegro, Rainier Pedraça, diretor da ABES-AM também visitaram o estande.

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  743. Online dating is a fantastic thing when you find a website or app that really works for you. With estimates as high as 8,000 dating sites available worldwide, however, it can be hard to discern which dating websites are complete wastes of time. In preparing for this Flirt.com review, I saw a very familiar template and knew exactly what I was looking at. Here’s a sneak peek:

    We like to do a lot of dating site reviews here at Beyond Ages to eliminate fake sites and time wasters. Since your online dating experience can only be as good as the website you use, it’s an important factor. By pointing you in the right direction with a detailed review, you can spend more time on actual dates. That’s how it’s meant to work, right?

    You need to be using at least one or two of the top dating apps right now if you want to get any real results. So many people exclusively look online now, thanks social distancing, that you can’t avoid it even if you want to. Fortunately there are a few great options out there for most people, you just need to do your research first.

    How we reviewed Flirt.com
    A lot of the reviews seem to cover the site based on a cursory glance. Rather than just talking about how the site looks and how I assume it would function, I want to go deeper.
    I’ll always set up a free profile, only filling out the mandatory fields at first. What I’m looking for here is to see if I’ll receive a bunch of inbox spam. Fake dating websites will often have a bunch of fake accounts that try to fool you into signing up for their premium service. Since no real user would message a blank profile, a busy inbox straight away means you’re seeing spambots.

    No matter how this turns out, I’ll then use the site for a week or two with this free account. I’ll add profile photos and complete my bio like normal. My aim is to set up as many dates as possible as a free user. I’m looking to see if it’s even possible and if so, how the experience compares to some of the more popular sites. After that, I move on to a paid account several weeks after that. I want to see if the premium perks make it any easier for me to set up dates.

    All in all, I end up with a far better understanding of what it’s like to actually use the site. This makes for a far more informative review. If I can save just one person from being scammed, all this effort is totally worthwhile.

    Every BeyondAges writer follows strict and verifiable guidelines. Unlike other dating sites, our reviews are always up-to-date and sourced by local experts–not rehashes of stuff you can find elsewhere.

    Methodology Description
    Rigorous Testing Conducting thorough reviews of dating apps and websites through extensive use over weeks/months.
    Anecdotal Experience Utilizing the practical experiences of a large team of dating and relationship coaches.
    Expertise Leveraging decades of practice in the dating scene to provide up-to-date and impactful advice. We balance subjectivity in an objective framework to give our readers a more wholistic frame of reference for modern dating.
    Continuous Learning Exploring new approaches to dating success to ensure advice remains relevant and effective. This includes out-of-the-box thinking to discover new trends and hacks.
    Online Focus We place a significant focus on how online dating and virtual communication affect modern dating dynamics. From apps, sites, chat rooms, video calls – we delve deep into the pros and cons.
    User Engagement Engaging with readers to comment and share their experiences to build a vibrant community, enhance trust, and ultimately create a better dating experience.
    Affiliate Disclaimer:
    At BeyondAges.com, some of our links are affiliate links, meaning we may earn a commission if you click on them and make a purchase at no additional cost to you. This does not influence our content; our opinions, reviews, and articles are based on objective analysis and remain unbiased.

    Please note that we do not directly sell products; our links lead to third-party websites with their own terms and policies. Your support through these links helps us maintain our site and continue delivering valuable content to our community.

    Thank you for trusting BeyondAges.com and being a part of our journey.

    Our Full Flirt.com Review: Fun or None?
    No need to hide the conclusion for this site all the way at the bottom. It’s part of a massive network of fake dating websites that seem to point back to TopOffers.com. If you’re not familiar with this network, I’d suggest reading through the rest of Flirt review anyway. The more you can understand and look out for these fake sites, the safer your credit card will be.

    AFF (which you can try for free) is one of the largest hookup sites out there right now and where we’ve seen guys especially get good results, which makes it Flirt.com’s biggest competitor. A great first step to any review is a brief comparison between the best option out there (AFF) and Flirt.

    So, below is a quick comparison so you can see how the two stack up.

    Our Recommendation
    In all honesty, Flirt.com disappoints on almost every front except usability. While the website’s layout is user-friendly and easy to navigate, it serves no real purpose when the only “women” I ended up conversing with turned out to be individuals located who knows where. Overall, my experience left much to be desired.

    The initial giveaway was the profiles themselves. Most of the profiles I encountered were nearly empty, containing only basic information. I frequently encountered profiles of women seeking men aged 18-96, which deviates from the norm where most dating apps feature users with more specific criteria for potential matches.

    Here is a screenshot of the typical interactions I experienced with users who messaged me. In my experience, nobody initiates a conversation like this. Typically, women would begin with a simple “hi,” “hello,” or a comment about your profile. However, the messages I received from Flirt.com users appeared to be generated by bots. It immediately put me on guard, signaling that I was dealing with a low-quality site primarily focused on coaxing users into subscribing to their premium services.

    Questionable message 1

    Questionable message 2

    When you compare it to the top sites out there now, like AFF, it looks even worse.

    I was looking for a hookup, so I used AFF instead. They boast over 60 million (real) users and are specifically targeted at hookups. I can send a handful of messages and expect a few replies even if my messages might be branded as “generic”. It’s infinitely better than giving this dodgy network your hard-earned money.

    If AFF doesn’t do it for you, we recently reviewed all of the top dating apps and websites out there. Have a look through that list and see what appeals to you most.

    How Did I Recognize That This Site Was Suspicious?
    After spending extensive time writing detailed dating site reviews, I’ve become acquainted with larger networks in the industry. In the case of TopOffers, a significant portion of their websites seems to share the same template and tactics. I’ve examined and reviewed these sites, and I could quickly discern that Flirt.com was just another site in their lineup of subpar dating platforms. Take a look at the five other sites within their network, and you’ll notice the striking similarity. As evident, Flirt.com closely resembles them as well.

    Site design similar to other sites
    Site design similar to other sites

    Other sites with a similar design

    They seem to register a collection of cringe domain names like “Shagaholic.com” then duplicate the site over and over. About the only thing that really changes is the color scheme, honestly. So, the moment I logged into with my free account I knew exactly what to expect and I wasn’t surprised.

    hey seem to register an array of cringe-worthy domain names like “Shagaholic.com” and replicate the same site repeatedly. The primary difference typically lies in the color scheme. Consequently, the moment I logged into my free account, I immediately recognized what to expect, and I was far from surprised.

    What Is This “Top Offers” You Keep Mentioning? As I delved deeper into writing more dating site reviews, I began noticing recurring names in the footer. The more closely I examined, the more connections I unearthed. It turns out this network comprises a whopping 218 fake dating websites! Most of these fall under one of six shell companies:

    Bulova Invest Ltd
    Together Networks Holdings Limited
    Nelfor Services Limited
    Timespace Holdings Limited
    Kingsrock Holdings Ltd
    Northlock Holdings Ltd
    If you ever encounter any of these names in a dating website’s footer, it’s time to cancel your account. In my years of scrutinizing dating sites, I knew that any site affiliated with these companies would adopt the same template, employ the same tactics, and ultimately disappoint users—no meaningful connections, money wasted, and the looming concern that my credit card details might be misused.

    What Makes These Sites So Dubious?
    A legitimate question indeed and one that deserves an answer. In essence, nothing about the 218 sites within their network is genuine, but they employ tactics to feign authenticity. I would incessantly receive messages from profiles on the site, but they were all either hidden behind a paywall or required payment to reply. These would typically be flirtatious messages from bots aiming to deceive me into subscribing to a premium account. With any site resorting to such tactics, I could never recommend divulging your credit card information.

    What makes these sites so bad?
    This is a fair question and an important one to answer. In short, nothing about the 218 sites in their network are legitimate, but they use tactics to pretend otherwise. I would constantly receive messages from profiles on the site but they’re all behind a paywall or I had to pay to reply. These will be flirty messages from a bot that tried to trick me into paying for a premium account. With any site that’s going to use tactics like these, I could never suggest handing over your credit card information.

    Conversation behind a paywall
    Conversation behind a paywall

    Moreover, as I discovered in my Flirt review, they will utilize your information to populate their other websites as well. They replicate your profile on other dubious “dating” platforms, making you unwittingly endorse their bots.

    It’s essentially a colossal affiliate network—where you are the product. As the saying goes, “If you’re not paying for it, you’re the product.”

    My Advice: The moment you encounter this template and receive suspicious messages from “users” claiming to be single women interested in meeting up, run. Be vigilant for messages that feel inauthentic. While users on this site may appear overly eager to interact, exercise caution. Chances are, they are merely trying to coax you into subscribing without any assurance of an actual meetup.

    Instead of squandering your time on sites like Flirt.com, I recommend opting for a more trustworthy dating platform. If you’re seeking hookups, I suggest using Adult FriendFinder (AFF). In my experience, no other platform surpasses AFF when it comes to facilitating casual encounters. Unlike Tinder, where your profile picture often dictates your entire experience, AFF places a more significant emphasis on genuine sexual chemistry. Furthermore, you have the advantage of filtering users based on your preferences, ensuring you find plenty of singles who align with your desires. Need more details? Check out our full review of Adult FriendFinder to know more about why we always recommend this site!

    Between Adult FriendFinder and Flirt.com, the choice is clear, and I wholeheartedly endorse AFF. I believe you should too!

    Learn More about Fake Dating Sites with Beyond Ages:
    Want to learn more about more fake dating sites like Flirt.com? Read our popular guide, The List of Fake Dating Sites You Should Avoid, and learn about some commonly-known and not-so-commonly-known scam sites out there:

    Author: Tom Senkus, Dating And Relationship Expert

    Excerpt: “Scammer dating sites often use overly attractive profiles to entice users. If something seems too good to be true, it probably is.

    There are a couple of signs to look for when screening overly attractive profiles:

    All of their photos look professional and possibly sourced from a modeling agency

    None of their photos have local landmarks or locations that match their stated location

    Their profile has “salesy” language that seems to be flattering to the reader without any specifics (“I’m looking for an older man that’s looking to settle down…”)

    Their profile seems to be generated by AI (artificial intelligence)

    Overtly sexual language meant to entice users

    Sales funnels like OnlyFans or contacting on alternative messaging platforms (like Snapchat for trading pics)

    A large difference between the quality of profiles for legitimate profiles versus ones you suspect to be fake. Not to be negative, but exceptionally model-tier attractive people tend to not use dating apps regularly (or they use exclusive luxury dating apps,). If you find too many attractive women on a relatively new app, for instance, you can reasonably assume that the developers are “padding” the available matches.”

    Expert Publications on Online Dating Site Scams
    The rabbit hole goes deep when it comes to online dating scams and the behavior of vast criminal networks around the world. If you’re curious to learn more about avoiding scams, there are plenty of academic studies where you can learn about which scams are more prevalent, how sites are attempting to prevent illegal/manipulative behavior, and more:

    Ignatius Hua Nyam – Lecturer, Department of Liberal Studies/Directorate of Policing Training Nigeria Police Academy, Wudil-Kano State- Nigeria

    “There are several reasons behind the propagation of online scams. An individual’s greed of sharing the wealth with a specificwealthy online partner is one of the reasons. Poverty also drives desperate individuals into cybercrime that involves romance scams. Some victims are affected because they did not know any better. While their desire to have emotional attachment trap others.

    Chenyang Wang

    “In an era of widespread mass marketing scams on the Internet, many victims have reported varying degrees of financial loss and psychological damage after encountering lottery scams and advance payment scams. Among them, the emotional damage to victims of online dating scams may be even more severe because the whole scam process involves mental attachment, sexual abuse, and relationship breakdown. There is little help and support for victims throughout the scam process and even after the scam is over, which not only makes it difficult for victims to get timely and professional assistance after experiencing online scams, but victims even run the risk of being scammed by criminals again afterward, so timely help and professional psychological treatment for victims is of positive significance. In previous studies, there are fewer reports summarizing and analyzing the psychological conditions of victims.”

    Fangzhou Wang, Assistant Professor of Criminology and Criminal Justice, University of Texas at Arlington

    “Our observations indicate that scammers not only diversify their approaches to prompt more responses, such as appealing to their romantic relationships, asking for identifying information and requesting victims switch to private chat platforms, but they also use several techniques for getting victims to overcome their misgivings about sending the scammers more money. For example, scammers subtly persuade victims to see themselves as holding more power in the interaction than they do.”

    What’s your experience been like using Flirt? Comment below and share your experience with the BeyondAges community.
    VISIT FLIRT NOW
    → CLICK TO TRY AFF FOR FREE ←
    Pros and cons
    No matter how dubious a site may be, there are usually some redeeming aspects. In the case of Flirt.com, however, the “positives” come off as thinly veiled criticisms:

  746. Pros and cons
    No matter how dubious a site may be, there are usually some redeeming aspects. In the case of Flirt.com, however, the “positives” come off as thinly veiled criticisms:

    PositivesNegatives
    No real women on the site
    You can’t read messages or reply to them unless you pay
    Even if you pay for a membership, none of the “women” will reply to you
    Chatting and messaging
    My messaging experience on this website would be great if there were real users on it. The layout is so intuitive and easy to use but any attempt to talk to someone brings you to this:

    Payment page to reply to a message

    Even when I got a pop-up window in the corner like the one below, I can’t reply. The moment I clicked in the text field to reply, I’m taken to that same subscription page.

    Pop-up message

    It’s quite disheartening, really. Yakf3 assured me that I wouldn’t regret meeting her, yet it seems I may never get the chance now. This problem persisted with every bot that messaged me.

    As illustrated in our recommendation, some messages don’t even reveal their initial content. You receive a notification that someone messaged you, but to view it, you must upgrade to a premium account.

    Alternatives to Apps For Normal Guys Recommended By Dating Experts

    If you haven’t been getting good results from dating apps you’re probably using the wrong apps. There are a few options out there that we’ve been seeing a lot of regular guys do really well with that you need to try:

    Who’s Flaking?
    Screentshots from our review of Flirt.com
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    Online dating is a fantastic thing when you find a website or app that really works for you. With estimates as high as 8,000 dating sites available worldwide, however, it can be hard to discern which dating websites are complete wastes of time. In preparing for this Flirt.com review, I saw a very familiar template and knew exactly what I was looking at. Here’s a sneak peek:

    Site Our Experience Our Rating Free Trial Link

    Best for hookups
    Experience Highlights
    Experience Highlights
    Best results for regular guys
    Over 60 million active members
    Our top hookup site for the year
    Not good for long-term relationships
    9
    Try AFF For Free
    Experience Highlights
    Experience Highlights
    No real women on the site
    You need to pay to message anyone
    Even if you pay for a membership, none of the “women” will reply to you
    3
    Try Flirt.com
    We like to do a lot of dating site reviews here at Beyond Ages to eliminate fake sites and time wasters. Since your online dating experience can only be as good as the website you use, it’s an important factor. By pointing you in the right direction with a detailed review, you can spend more time on actual dates. That’s how it’s meant to work, right?

    You need to be using at least one or two of the top dating apps right now if you want to get any real results. So many people exclusively look online now, thanks social distancing, that you can’t avoid it even if you want to. Fortunately there are a few great options out there for most people, you just need to do your research first.

    How we reviewed Flirt.com
    A lot of the reviews seem to cover the site based on a cursory glance. Rather than just talking about how the site looks and how I assume it would function, I want to go deeper.
    I’ll always set up a free profile, only filling out the mandatory fields at first. What I’m looking for here is to see if I’ll receive a bunch of inbox spam. Fake dating websites will often have a bunch of fake accounts that try to fool you into signing up for their premium service. Since no real user would message a blank profile, a busy inbox straight away means you’re seeing spambots.

    No matter how this turns out, I’ll then use the site for a week or two with this free account. I’ll add profile photos and complete my bio like normal. My aim is to set up as many dates as possible as a free user. I’m looking to see if it’s even possible and if so, how the experience compares to some of the more popular sites. After that, I move on to a paid account several weeks after that. I want to see if the premium perks make it any easier for me to set up dates.

    All in all, I end up with a far better understanding of what it’s like to actually use the site. This makes for a far more informative review. If I can save just one person from being scammed, all this effort is totally worthwhile.

    Every BeyondAges writer follows strict and verifiable guidelines. Unlike other dating sites, our reviews are always up-to-date and sourced by local experts–not rehashes of stuff you can find elsewhere.

    Methodology Description
    Rigorous Testing Conducting thorough reviews of dating apps and websites through extensive use over weeks/months.
    Anecdotal Experience Utilizing the practical experiences of a large team of dating and relationship coaches.
    Expertise Leveraging decades of practice in the dating scene to provide up-to-date and impactful advice. We balance subjectivity in an objective framework to give our readers a more wholistic frame of reference for modern dating.
    Continuous Learning Exploring new approaches to dating success to ensure advice remains relevant and effective. This includes out-of-the-box thinking to discover new trends and hacks.
    Online Focus We place a significant focus on how online dating and virtual communication affect modern dating dynamics. From apps, sites, chat rooms, video calls – we delve deep into the pros and cons.
    User Engagement Engaging with readers to comment and share their experiences to build a vibrant community, enhance trust, and ultimately create a better dating experience.
    Affiliate Disclaimer:
    At BeyondAges.com, some of our links are affiliate links, meaning we may earn a commission if you click on them and make a purchase at no additional cost to you. This does not influence our content; our opinions, reviews, and articles are based on objective analysis and remain unbiased.

    Please note that we do not directly sell products; our links lead to third-party websites with their own terms and policies. Your support through these links helps us maintain our site and continue delivering valuable content to our community.

    Thank you for trusting BeyondAges.com and being a part of our journey.

    Our Full Flirt.com Review: Fun or None?
    No need to hide the conclusion for this site all the way at the bottom. It’s part of a massive network of fake dating websites that seem to point back to TopOffers.com. If you’re not familiar with this network, I’d suggest reading through the rest of Flirt review anyway. The more you can understand and look out for these fake sites, the safer your credit card will be.

    AFF (which you can try for free) is one of the largest hookup sites out there right now and where we’ve seen guys especially get good results, which makes it Flirt.com’s biggest competitor. A great first step to any review is a brief comparison between the best option out there (AFF) and Flirt.

    So, below is a quick comparison so you can see how the two stack up.

    Site logo Adult FriendFinder Logo
    Overall
    3
    9.5
    Quality of Women
    2
    9
    Popularity
    4
    9
    Usability
    10
    10
    Privacy & Safety
    8
    10
    Effectiveness
    1
    9
    Value
    1
    10
    VISIT FLIRT NOW
    → CLICK TO TRY AFF FOR FREE ←
    Our Recommendation
    In all honesty, Flirt.com disappoints on almost every front except usability. While the website’s layout is user-friendly and easy to navigate, it serves no real purpose when the only “women” I ended up conversing with turned out to be individuals located who knows where. Overall, my experience left much to be desired.

    The initial giveaway was the profiles themselves. Most of the profiles I encountered were nearly empty, containing only basic information. I frequently encountered profiles of women seeking men aged 18-96, which deviates from the norm where most dating apps feature users with more specific criteria for potential matches.

    Here is a screenshot of the typical interactions I experienced with users who messaged me. In my experience, nobody initiates a conversation like this. Typically, women would begin with a simple “hi,” “hello,” or a comment about your profile. However, the messages I received from Flirt.com users appeared to be generated by bots. It immediately put me on guard, signaling that I was dealing with a low-quality site primarily focused on coaxing users into subscribing to their premium services.

    Questionable message 1

    Questionable message 2

    When you compare it to the top sites out there now, like AFF, it looks even worse.

    I was looking for a hookup, so I used AFF instead. They boast over 60 million (real) users and are specifically targeted at hookups. I can send a handful of messages and expect a few replies even if my messages might be branded as “generic”. It’s infinitely better than giving this dodgy network your hard-earned money.

    If AFF doesn’t do it for you, we recently reviewed all of the top dating apps and websites out there. Have a look through that list and see what appeals to you most.

    How Did I Recognize That This Site Was Suspicious?
    After spending extensive time writing detailed dating site reviews, I’ve become acquainted with larger networks in the industry. In the case of TopOffers, a significant portion of their websites seems to share the same template and tactics. I’ve examined and reviewed these sites, and I could quickly discern that Flirt.com was just another site in their lineup of subpar dating platforms. Take a look at the five other sites within their network, and you’ll notice the striking similarity. As evident, Flirt.com closely resembles them as well.

    Site design similar to other sites
    Site design similar to other sites

    Other sites with a similar design

    They seem to register a collection of cringe domain names like “Shagaholic.com” then duplicate the site over and over. About the only thing that really changes is the color scheme, honestly. So, the moment I logged into with my free account I knew exactly what to expect and I wasn’t surprised.

    hey seem to register an array of cringe-worthy domain names like “Shagaholic.com” and replicate the same site repeatedly. The primary difference typically lies in the color scheme. Consequently, the moment I logged into my free account, I immediately recognized what to expect, and I was far from surprised.

    What Is This “Top Offers” You Keep Mentioning? As I delved deeper into writing more dating site reviews, I began noticing recurring names in the footer. The more closely I examined, the more connections I unearthed. It turns out this network comprises a whopping 218 fake dating websites! Most of these fall under one of six shell companies:

    Bulova Invest Ltd
    Together Networks Holdings Limited
    Nelfor Services Limited
    Timespace Holdings Limited
    Kingsrock Holdings Ltd
    Northlock Holdings Ltd
    If you ever encounter any of these names in a dating website’s footer, it’s time to cancel your account. In my years of scrutinizing dating sites, I knew that any site affiliated with these companies would adopt the same template, employ the same tactics, and ultimately disappoint users—no meaningful connections, money wasted, and the looming concern that my credit card details might be misused.

    What Makes These Sites So Dubious?
    A legitimate question indeed and one that deserves an answer. In essence, nothing about the 218 sites within their network is genuine, but they employ tactics to feign authenticity. I would incessantly receive messages from profiles on the site, but they were all either hidden behind a paywall or required payment to reply. These would typically be flirtatious messages from bots aiming to deceive me into subscribing to a premium account. With any site resorting to such tactics, I could never recommend divulging your credit card information.

    What makes these sites so bad?
    This is a fair question and an important one to answer. In short, nothing about the 218 sites in their network are legitimate, but they use tactics to pretend otherwise. I would constantly receive messages from profiles on the site but they’re all behind a paywall or I had to pay to reply. These will be flirty messages from a bot that tried to trick me into paying for a premium account. With any site that’s going to use tactics like these, I could never suggest handing over your credit card information.

    Conversation behind a paywall
    Conversation behind a paywall

    Moreover, as I discovered in my Flirt review, they will utilize your information to populate their other websites as well. They replicate your profile on other dubious “dating” platforms, making you unwittingly endorse their bots.

    It’s essentially a colossal affiliate network—where you are the product. As the saying goes, “If you’re not paying for it, you’re the product.”

    My Advice: The moment you encounter this template and receive suspicious messages from “users” claiming to be single women interested in meeting up, run. Be vigilant for messages that feel inauthentic. While users on this site may appear overly eager to interact, exercise caution. Chances are, they are merely trying to coax you into subscribing without any assurance of an actual meetup.

    Instead of squandering your time on sites like Flirt.com, I recommend opting for a more trustworthy dating platform. If you’re seeking hookups, I suggest using Adult FriendFinder (AFF). In my experience, no other platform surpasses AFF when it comes to facilitating casual encounters. Unlike Tinder, where your profile picture often dictates your entire experience, AFF places a more significant emphasis on genuine sexual chemistry. Furthermore, you have the advantage of filtering users based on your preferences, ensuring you find plenty of singles who align with your desires. Need more details? Check out our full review of Adult FriendFinder to know more about why we always recommend this site!

    Between Adult FriendFinder and Flirt.com, the choice is clear, and I wholeheartedly endorse AFF. I believe you should too!

    Learn More about Fake Dating Sites with Beyond Ages:
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    Payment page to reply to a message

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    What Is Flirt.com?
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    Who Actually Owns Flirt?
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    Is Flirt Real?
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    One day: $0.99
    One week: $7.00 ($1 a day)
    One month: $28.80 ($0.96 a day)
    Three months: $48.60 ($0.54 a day)
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